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Topic: YENKO BS DISCUSSION (Read 506 times)
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novamob
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I don't recall anything negitive being said about Shonye (as stated on y.net), but rather him asking questions to M about the paperwork that they used to 'certify' the car. However, he did seem a little perturbed that the ongoing battle(s) that have occurred on other sites, like TC, boiled over to Steve's.
I thought everything was being discussed openly & professionally...maybe it was the quotes in the PM's that struck a nerve. Too bad the thread got censored.
I'd still like to know the difference between syc paperwork & regular Yenko dealership paperwork. My Yenko invoice, order form etc had no special syc designation other than 427 being written on it.
Maybe Warren or Mark G would know....
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I am not sure what the big deal is on the brown 69 Nova?
I know there have been questions on it but it was restored as a SS396 L78 Nova.
If it was restored as a 427 Yenko Nova with the stripes, then I can see why people would question it.
It is a documented SS396 L78 Nova with special order paint and was sold by Yenko. It has a top level resto which probably cost over $100K.
That is a high value car by any appraisal.
They added a Stinger hood with Yenko emblems but that to me is not a big deal as that is done on some 67 Yenko Camaros and you can always bolt on a stock hood if that is what you want.
The part about saying there are 38 Yenko Novas vs Vince's number of 37 is kinda dumb since nobody knows exactly how many of any Yenko car was made and all production numbers should be listed as approximate .
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Tim, I know what you mean but I am not talking about the sale of the car. I am looking at the car as a Yenko fan and this is a Yenko sold car and Warren did have paperwork on it.
I am curious about how it was sold by Yenko just as I am curious about all the Yenko cars.
The car was restored mostly as an original SS396 including exhaust manifolds, AIR pump etc. They did add the hood and wheels but this is done on other Yenko sold cars and these items are not difficult to change if an owner wanted to change it to the Yenko sold condition.
So it looks to me like it was restored mostly according to its Yenko paperwork.
The point I am trying to make is that the car itself does not have major issues as compared to a Yenko sold SS396 that gets restored as 427 SC or a rust bucket that had a complete rebody and tag change.
Jude asked about Yenko Chevrolet paperwork vs Yenko SportsCars paperwork and this is something I am interested in also. It is not always clear what was done but from what I can tell, a car may have been ordered by YenkoSports Cars as part of a fleet order but may have been sold as a standard Chevy product.
The important difference is if the car would change to a YenkoSports manufactured product.
In the 1970 ads, Yenko claimed " Worlds Largest Manufacturer of Chevy-Based HI-Performance Vehicles" and in some of the promo letters they use the phrase "This is a bonafide Yenko SportsCar”. So at some point the car changed from a Chevrolet manufactured product to a YenkoSports Cars manufactured product.
For example, A COPO Corvair became a Yenko Stinger, a SS350 or SS396 Camaro became a Yenko 427 Super Camaro, a COPO 427 Camaro or Chevelle became a Yenko 427 SC Camaro or Chevelle, etc.
It is unfortunate that the Yenko fans can't have a discussion without bashing, banning, and censorship but I won't give up on it. I hope that the other real Yenko fans don't give up on trying to discuss Yenko history while following all the rules of the web sites and keeping their post "family safe".
We can't let the negatives win over the positives. I know I have added some to the negative side at times but I do try too keep on the positive side.
This post is written to discuss Yenko history not to bash any person, car, or web site.
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People were collecting/trading Yenko vins for over 25 years - long before any web sites had them.
I started collecting Yenko stuff in 1986 and there were already people collecting and making vin lists then.
I think the COPO Connection web site was the first to post lists about 10 years ago but they didn't show the complete serial number.
I remember working on them to try and fill in the numbers.
This site was the first to post a list with the full vin number. What was the date of first vin list post? about 2004?
On the Yenko 427 Novas, from what I can recall of some evidence of 427 conversions;
Don talked about one in his 1987 MCR interview.
Yenko showed (drawings) of 427 Novas with stripes in the "Meet The Mean Ones" ad
I recall two cars with baby pictures with old looking paint with stripes
There is a cool photo of Kevin S. 427 Nova at the drag strip with Yenko and 427 emblems but no stripes
There is a picture of a load of new 1969 Yenko Chevelles, Camaros, and 1 Yenko Nova on the Yenko car carrier, I believe all of the cars on the carrier had stripes and 427 emblems.
I am not sure exactly how Vince E. derived at his number of 30 1969 427 Yenko Novas but that number has been used since the mid 1980s .
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Here is the one at the drag strip
Tim, didn't Cliff E. trade a restored Yenko Camaro for a 427 Yenko Nova found in a field still with old paint and stripes?
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1969 Yenko car carrier in the snow with a 427 Nova.
I guess would be Winter/Spring 1969
Now that loaded rig would be the mother of all barn finds! 
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When anyone big in the industry fails to go along with your gaggle of horse---- you bounce em.All the knowlegable people left or were booted along time ago.Docs not napkins docs!!!!
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